Work harder you plebs.

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  1. Rosco

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    You realise the problem doesn't isn't the Lithuanians, it's your British boss trying to increase his profits.
     
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    He answered your point before you put it in the last sentence of his post.
     
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    No he didnt
     
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    No he didn't.
     
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    Impressive! :)
     
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    Agree 100%

    I ended up working in Education as a technician on poor money given I was actually good at my job after years of doing all sorts of things. However, it was only a second wage as my wife was a teacher and main earner. I got fed up with the dead end nature of it though and the way the environment had changed with petty rules sucking all the enjotment out of it. The beginning of the end was when one of the program line managers asked me if I wanted to study for some GCSE qualifications failing to know I had Commercial experience working in Banking and insurance, 'O' and A levels and technical qualifications. Since more of my time was spent using IT at 47 eas ofage I decided to do leae my job and study for my MSCE MCP which I paid for, myself and got one working in Telecomms and ended up doing technical implementation and design on Outbound Contact Centre for Govt projects on a lot more money and benefits. The irony being I was not particularly outstanding ay it but I did work hard. so... as you say the opportunities are there if people get off their backsides and make an effort instead of blaming the Government for all their ills.
    Italy is full of Poles, Rumanians and Albanians and the reason they get work is not that they work for less but they work bl**dy hard for the going rate. So this phenomenon is not just a UK thing.
     
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    It's the going rate that's the problem.
     
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    So how do you increase the going rate...
     
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    By decreasing the profits and dividends
    There's also a case against job snobbery in which some people in a firm think they are worth 100s if times the salary if the lowest to the extent where the lowest find it hard to get by whilst some are in the lap of luxury ,
    I'm also for rewarding ambition but some are really taking the piss ,including public sector .
     
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    Don't disagree with that. The trouble with the UK is that when productivity goes up and profits increase the people who made it happen through sheer graft are largely ignored and it is seen as being solely down to the management. So, the managers salaries rocket, shareholders dividends go up but the average person sees no benefits either in personal remuneration or improvements in the infrastructure or health care.

    It is like the world where people starve, not through any failure in being able to produce sufficient food but the inability or lack of willingness to distribute the world's resources.

    Bottom line is that UK pays itself much more than many European countries with the corresponding cost of living/property prices largely due to the ridiculous inflation rates during the 70s early 80s when it was more than 15- 17%. This without actually producing more. Teachers and public sector workers, for example, in Italy get around 14-16k euros per year and the tax rate is 23% with virtually no allowances to speak of. Above 15k it goes to 26%. Food/restaurant prices are lower across the board in Italy (except for tourist areas). This is the problem with the EU 'one size fits all' approach with vastly differing economies. No idea how we can resolve it though in a painless way. Any society that puts 90% of the wealth into the top 5% of the population will ultimately fail. Whether that is through revolution or evolution is anyone's guess.
     

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