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  1. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Can I just ask a question here

    To all the Davey out team

    Whats the better alternative? Its very easy to demand the sacking of a manager - its much much harder to ensure that the club is better off after he has been replaced.

    Before getting too hasty there needs to be someone better lined up. We are averaging a new manager approximately once a year since Bassett and our track record of improving isnt great Ritchie in For Hart and Gudjon in for Bodges are the only 2 definite improvements I can think of - arguably Davey is the only other one (I dont count Parkin as an improvement on Spackman as even I could have done a better job than him)

    - By the way I didnt want Davey in the first place - and wont shed any tears if he goes but I do think we need to have a better altenative arranged - and thats very difficult - I dont think Shep was drowning in quality applications last time round
     
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    but even 9 months isn't that long in the grand scheme of things

    look what happens when we gave Wilson just 3 years ok the same probably won't happen but even Mel Machin got 4 years

    changing the manager now will not improve the situation, give Davey the chance to turn it around - this would only be his second full season remember
     
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    RE: Can I just ask a question here

    But surely sticking with this same crap every week will lead us to league 1 again! Its bad a the minute and maybe i know we should give him a bit more time but i just don't see any improvement on say februarys league games. Same Tactics employed every week even if they don't work and constantly playing players who clearly aren't good enough - its one of those things where we could be damned if we do and damned if we dont!!
     
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    How many games? nt
     
  5. Lee

    Lee Active Member

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    RE: Can I just ask a question here

    Players aren't gonna change though mate.... not til January at least. And then, were not exactly the richest of clubs. We'd have to offload what we've already got, and that isn't gonna be easy. There is no way the club can afford to just release players.</p>

    Lose/Lose situation i'm afraid. Its easy saying it now, but should never have set Davey on in the first place. Were stuck with him, and his players, for the foreseeable future as far as i can see.
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  6. Farnham_Red

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    but you are being destructive rather than constructive

    Your view is get Davey out - things cannot be worse

    To which I would reply yes they could Spackman isnt managing a team at the moment - neither is Bryan Robson + quite a few others who have a worse record than Davey.

    You need a campain to get a realistic alternative that we know would be better - Alan Curbishly for example but there is no way he would come so who can we get that we know would be an improvement - I dont know anyone. Hopefully Patrick does but I am not so sure
     
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    Billy Davies if he would come would be good. Its the crap negative football that gets to me more than anything else, i hate it.
     
  8. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I agree he would be good

    And if I knew he would come I'd be asking where do I sign the Davey out petition, but would he come to us really? We couldnt even agree anything sensible with Blackwell last time and he isnt half the Manager that Billy is

    I think he could land a better club if he bides his time a bit - might even get his old job back at Derby :)
     
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    Not A Defeat

    But a poor performance & a point.

    We CAN NOT lose today
     
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    RE: Can I just ask a question here

    Lee, how can you say that,but, I suppose thats you're opinion and I have to respect it. Just cast your mind back to other situations where players have all of a sudden get their fingers out
    and play exciting stuff for the next manager. It's been seen time after time where there is a dread of playing a team who have just sacked their manager.

    I'm still convinced that,for what it's worth, the players at BFC are determined to get this man out. He and his assistant are reputedly/allegedly a pair of arrogant,aggressive,conceited and
    egocentric personalities who have ruffled the feathers of most people meaning the team and now the fans.
     
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    I'd rather he stayed and won every game from now until the end of the season.

    And in doing so proving me and a number of other doubters wrong along the way.

    He won't though. He's ****.
     
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    But if they players aren't good enough to start with, what difference is a change in manager gonna bring? Remember, 90% (ish) of the players in the squad are Davey signings. They signed to play for him. Nobody else. You could argue that our best player, Howard, wasn't signed by Davey and thats why he is in poor form, but what about the rest? Davey's players?
     
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    No. Need the points.
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  14. Gue

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    RE: but even 9 months isn't that long in the grand scheme of things

    This is the 3rd season that he has had to make things happen, regardless of whether you see it as 6 games or 90 games at the present time and the only things that have changed have been the names on the team sheet or squad list. Nothing else has changed. His tactical awareness doesn't show any sign of major improvement. His substitutions/team selections, generally are as confusing as ever. His arrogance if anything has grown rather than diminished. There is nothing to suggest that he has learned anything in those 90 games and as a young, ambitious manager/coach, there damned well ought to be.
     
  15. Gue

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    Yes, because

    if he stays, it will be more of the same for some time to come. He is too stubborn to change obvious failings e.g Odejayi upfront etc. I personally supported him to start and i think that stability it what this club needs-but despite that - we are starting to go backwards under his leadership and morale appears to have hit rock bottom. In an ideal world we will win 5 on the bounce now, turn it around and return to the form of early last season- but sadly i just cant see that hapening. :'(
     

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