Wrexham...

I'm not a wrexham fanboy whatsoever, merely disproving some of the nonsense out their that people like yourself have adapted through a dislike, because they've had a successfull period with a unique model.
FYI there wage bill was £2m more than ours last season but their turnover was 3 times greater.
You are absolutely off your rocker if you believe nobody is allowed to spend what they've created, they haven't done it the Bournemouth way by chucking fists full of money, it's money they've generated from growing the club.

I'll let you keep believing in the silly notion you hold and keep throwing the Wrexham fan thing in as you've been disproved on your theory that they just came in and plundered in loads of money, with no work whatsoever to grow the brand.

Have a good day

 

So which are you most impressed with mate? The model? Or the thought of a director worth £2b

Considering you think they’re doing something great, and different, you seem to quote numbers a hell of a lot, because there is a lot of money currently involved there, regardless of where it comes from.

 

Again. I’ve never said anyone shouldnt be allowed to spend, and I don’t have a theory that Wrexhams owners have put in loads of their own money. I’m quite aware how they’ve raised the money - but as I keep saying, it’s money that Wrexham wouldn’t have had without them, let’s see how it turns out for them in the long run. They’ve just hit a tougher phase.

 

Back in the day, I remember being pleased when Wrexham beat Arsenal in the cup. Proper old fashioned giant killing!

I was at Oxford when they beat us 4-0 mid 80s, the day they got to the top flight. We knew that Maxwell was in charge there, but the sugar daddy thing wasn’t such a big thing then, so I can’t remember any bad feeling towards them.

I think the internet has changed people’s perception. Back in the day, the only time you met opposing fans was on a match day. We’d often play them at footy and go for a pint. Or for those that way inclined, they’d chase each other up and down in the town.

Scroll forward to now, and as you say, there’s a lot to put you off fans of certain clubs, and it’s not always the fans, but the love their clubs get from the media.

it’s a bit like the thread about feeling sorry for Wednesday fans. ‘Blessed are the meek’ for me. Those fans that don’t demand their clubs spend loads of money, and don’t just appear and willy wave when things are good. I have sympathy for them, but the rest are fair game when it hits the fan.

I used to argue the toss with Wigwam fans on Twitter. They’d been in the Prem and in their minds that was their level, and they’d soon be back. I doubt many of those posters even still watch them.

 

To be honest im a strange minority as I think FFP is stupid. Let the owners do as they please. They own the club at the end of the day. If I were rich and chose to run a pub at a loss that would be my call.

I know ultimately it could lead to clubs going out of business when owners lose interest but let's be honest the current system seems no better.

 

Not understanding your logic with this?

 

So basically this thread is a waste of time. You've had reasoned argument and figures given to you, but your just entrenched in your view that their owners are bad based on...not really sure tbh.

 

I don’t think the owners are bad at all. Can’t speak for Fitzytyke (though I suspect he’ll agree) but the reason I’m not a Wrexham fan is because of the sickening love in that the media have with them. Ever since the documentary started when they were in the National League the media have been all over them like a rash. All because of Ryan Reynolds and the Disney factor. It’s getting tedious now, just who outside Wrexham is actually bothered?
Trying to paint it as some kind of fairytale is a bit much.
Edit….another annoying thing about them last season was the number of ridiculous dodgy penalty decisions that went in their favour, no doubt influenced in some part by their sudden high profile. No, I’m not a fan at all.

 

That is a totally different point of view to what fitzy has been putting forward.

Understandable if that's how you feel about it all, fair enough.

 

There’s reasoned argument, then there’s trying to put words in my mouth.

I didn’t say their owners are bad at all. I said I don’t like what they’ve created. It’s ok to have an opinion isn’t it?

 

I don’t mind them winning next week though….

 

Again, my view is I don’t like sugardaddys catapulting little clubs up the league. Why can’t you just accept that’s my view and move forward.

All I’ve had in return is ‘whataboutism’ and numbers. I’ve explained why I’m not keen, but here we are.

 

Yours is the same view as mine mate. Don’t know why I’m getting the stick. Lol

Might not age well this for some.

 

Come on then Pal. Tell me what my view is that’s different to his.

 

No, me neither haha. Football always has been and always should be about opinions. When we can’t agree then we agree to disagree!
I guess we’re both traditionalists that would love the old game back when clubs rose up the league ladder on merit, by shrewd management and not through the wealth of their ownership. It’s not coming back anytime soon I know but it doesn’t stop me resenting the circus surrounding clubs like Wrexham who’ve suddenly been catapulted up via the finance route.

 

If you think everything you've said in this thread equates to just "sick of hearing about them" then I'll just leave it here.

 

To add to that, These clubs, who have historically been ‘ smaller in stature to many others, including us,suddenly claim to be Sleeping giants, Remember John Ryan at Donny, lol, first time in more than 50 years they’d played at second highest tier, in a new Stadium, and were lucky to get 9000 home fans for the big games. They were ‘Arsenal of the North etc etc,

 

Ryan was your common or garden gobshíte though.

 

Nope. The truth is that Wrexham are where they are because of their owners. No amount of bringing their accounts up, and comparing them to others is going to change that. They are benefitting from investment, regardless of how it’s raised. That’s an absolute fact. That’s basically what I’ve said all along.

Can you find anywhere I’ve said anything derogatory about the persons owning the club? That they’re bad people etc?

It’s my opinion that you’ve got a problem with, not the facts.

 

Can see your point but there surely need to be some checks on those said owners or loads of fans could find their clubs sold off for car parks or supermarkets.