Your direct experience of Europe

Me to- and I hope this BS about us somehow losing this market is dismissed too. It's the only thing the IN vote have and it's paper thin

 

Oh we can have as many market relationships as we like. Just on worse terms than we currently enjoy.

I suspect we will come out because the media is hell bent on making it happen (they got us a tory govt after all). We won't fully realise the impact til years after.

 

Please expand these "worse terms" - Go on - pick a company and demonstrate how they are going to be worse off.....

Frankly nothing will change in relation to trade. It's just scaremongering.

Like I said - this BS needs destroying.

 

You know.... i've typed a very lengthy reply.... and i cant be arsed, I've a business to run, develop and do my best to protect. Whatever i say, you'll dismiss because you think you know better, which of course is your choice.

I have my my first hand experiences that allow me my view of businesses leaving to head to Europe, of EU businesses not buying from companies outside the zone, and trade deals that will undoubtedly be worse after lengthy spells of negotiation (dear mr EU, we think youre an awful organisation and glad we're not in.... please can you stop charging our businesses tariffs that make us uncompetitive, pretty pretty please?)

Enjoy your day.

 

You're absolutely right that the German car manufactures won't put up with a situation where they lost free access to the UK market.

Which in practice means a free trade agreement with the EU that will require us to still comply with EU legislation without any say in it.

 

Wouldn't have to pay for the privilege though...

 

Stop worrying about these

They are illegal.

They will never be implemented. They cannot under world trade organisation rules - not just EU rules - not unless we throw up tarriffs first.

France doesn't buy from outside France even though it's in the zone already - How will this change?

I live with this nonsense every day running my business where British Customers like the big supermarkets gladly buy from France - but French supermarkets won't touch anyone from outside france and that's before we get started on the French farmers and their government influence.

My opinion comes from experience - not ignorance as you infer.

My view can be changed by evidence and facts rather than scaremongering and hearsay. Sadly I doubt it will be.

 

We'll if it's the German car manufacturers telling us how to run our country the we should definately vote out.....I'm not sure I follow your logic.

 

I've often thought that French supermarkets reflect what the French consumer wants. My experience of shopping in French supermarkets is that the quality of their fresh produce is usually superior to anything that our supermarkets stock. If the French want horse meat they can buy it openly unlike our supermarkets who sell horse meat but label it as beef, it's labelled as horse meat in the French supermarket.

 

I don't think anyone glosses over that...MP's have been to jail over it...have any European Parliament MP's ? ( don't know the answer just asking the question)

 

That though is no different to selling into any other market, UK manufacturers always build ie. US spec cars, and we have no say in their legislation...the answer there is build what the customer wants....shouldn't be a problem.

 

To be fair though, that's business, not an EU issue...the difference is the much vaunted 'City' in London often encourages the short termism of a big sale...the 'City' in Frankfurt for example tend to rally round and protect their manufacturers from foreign takeover.