you've got to feel sorry for the teachers

which is you then

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/...ables/secondary_schools/html/370_gcse_lea.stm

 

Did tha 'wag it' than oooooohh tha's a bad un !!

 

Absolutely.

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The nurses have been treated appallingly lately. Shame the miners had to stand alone, guess you reap what you sow.</p>

 

what suprises me is that on a normal school morning, so many teachers are on here defending.......

their position.</p>

Are the all teaching IT this morning?</p>

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Does that include PCT directors ?

They need a 20% cut.

 

60 - 40?

I'll not ask what scientific method you used to come up with that, but even if that is true you are assuming that during the 40% influence teachers have they receive the full backing of the parents, therefore allowing them to do their jobs well. This unfortunately is not true. Trying to speak to some parents about their childs education or well being is the most difficult aspect of the job.

And sorry to play this card so early, but if you've never tried it, done it or experienced it, you simply have your own experience of education which is hardly generalised.

 

In fact....

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<u><font size="2">Desrve more</font></u></p>

<font size="2">NHS Staff</font></p>

<u><font size="2">About right</font></u></p>

<font size="2">Teachers</font></p>

<font size="2">Police</font></p>

<font size="2">Prison service</font></p>

<u><font size="2">Deserve less</font></u></p>

<font size="2">Firemen</font></p>

<font size="2">NHS management</font></p>

<u><font size="2">Deserve half</font></u></p>

<font size="2">Council staff </font></p>

<font size="2">Council management</font></p>

 

RE: Absolutely.

Sorry, I don't understand what point you are trying to make there.

 

In my opinion, the problem with striking for more money to do what is regarded by many teachers as an impossible job is pointless.

Why not strike against the curriculum being imposed or the impossible reporting systems being imposed, use that influence and experience you have to hold the government to ransom for something other then more cash. Because as most people will appreciate, if you're not happy with what you earn, you probably don't like your job and never will. If teaching isn't all that you expected it to be do something about it, there are plenty of other careers out there.

I do think teachers have an impossible job to do btw, but more money won't cure it.

 

29%

I can't find stats showing numbers in each school, so I cant work it out accurately. But if you use the average across the schools it works out as 29% which I admit is very slightly better than 1 in 4. BUT STILL A SHAMBLES!

 

YOu 'work' for the council?

 

RE: Absolutely.

By destroying a viable industry to take out a major union Thatcher removed the worker's major ally in any future dispute. By turning its back and allowing her to do so the British trade union movement effectively knocked its own teeth out.

 

RE: Absolutely.

But the nurses don't strike, so you are saying they are reaping what they sowed?

 

Ooh! Hark at My Serious! nt

 

RE: Absolutely.

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I didn't say anything about the nurses striking.</p>

 

The correct answer is 31.5%

I even posted the link to this above

It is bad but closer to 1 in 3 than 1 in 4

Seems research skills should also be taught in schools

 

RE: Absolutely.

Yes but you commented on the nurses being treated badly and correlated that to the miners and saying "you reap what you sow"
Sorry if I interpreted it differently to how you intended, but that came across as saying because the nurses didn't support the miners.

 

rubbish

if they don't think they get paid enough, get another job.

plenty of my friends who graduated from university went down the teaching route and they are financially better off than a lot of other graduates.

 

Oh yes, I meant that.

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I think, in times of struggle, a lot of people wish they still had the miners to back them up. Especially those who don't strike.</p>

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An easy answer

but there is a shortage of science teachers with science degrees, because salaries in industry are much higher. So they have taken that advice, but how does that help to train the next generation of scientists when they aren't getting the required level of schooling in the subjects?